tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post3457249916443805646..comments2023-10-20T04:16:20.694-05:00Comments on Cracked Sidewalks: Cottingham details 'the process'Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-22984385302223858852008-05-18T13:35:00.000-05:002008-05-18T13:35:00.000-05:00You mean, like "Crean sucks. He can't coach. He co...You mean, like "Crean sucks. He can't coach. He could only win with Wade!" <BR/><BR/>You mean asinine quotes like that? No. <BR/><BR/>But if criticism is warranted, then yes. I certainly will say my goal as a fan will not be to criticize the coach after every game like the Crean haters did. I will, however, judge his entire body of work at the conclusion of the season.<BR/><BR/>I have better thnigs to do and people have better things to read than hearing myself (and others that don't like the decision) scream "told you so" for an entire season. Let's hope it doesn't come down to that.Gene Frenklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04219722201995664841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-64876354512963910592008-05-17T07:42:00.000-05:002008-05-17T07:42:00.000-05:00Gene:Are we going to hear after every Marquette lo...Gene:<BR/>Are we going to hear after every Marquette loss, "Why did Cottingham hire Buzz?" If we are, I pity you.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134102112948628618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-55040062840428884662008-05-16T22:59:00.000-05:002008-05-16T22:59:00.000-05:00In case you don't know, there may have been two "b...In case you don't know, there may have been two "big names" that turned MU down. But, there were at least 100+ more candidates with more experience than Buzz or more buzz than Buzz. THAT'S the key. <BR/><BR/>If MU actually spoke to a Lowery or a Brownell, the comments on this blog would be completely different. People would be upset still, but, they wouldn't have the process to blame. <BR/><BR/>Cottingham's lame ass excuses have only opened up the wound because it proved that MU never did anything more than talk to two of the hottest names in the country and then throw up their arms and hire the guy down the hall. <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry, but that's a horrific way to hire the most public job on MU's campus.Gene Frenklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04219722201995664841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-55307410267534365812008-05-16T18:28:00.000-05:002008-05-16T18:28:00.000-05:00How pathetic!It’s not the length of the search tha...How pathetic!<BR/><BR/>It’s not the length of the search that has Gene and the rest of the Tom Crean fan-club-for-life up in arms. No: it’s the cold, hard fact that no matter how long the search, the big names were NEVER going to come to Marquette. That’s what hurts. Not the AD who was a lawyer. Not the coach who was an assistant. It’s the lack of validation regarding all the time and money you spend on this blog and team, that it’s not top tier and well below the Big Ten.<BR/><BR/>I, for one, went to Marquette for academics. I was fortunate enough to be a contemporary of Doc Rivers, Mike Wilson and others, but never for once felt I was at UCLA. <BR/><BR/>Get over it.The Chuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13816719156714435839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-34605742884953239982008-05-16T18:09:00.000-05:002008-05-16T18:09:00.000-05:00If Cottingham had interviewed a dozen coaches and ...If Cottingham had interviewed a dozen coaches and then hired Buzz Williams would people be satisfied? Or if Tony Bennett was the only one interviewed and was hired would people complain? I believe there is bias both ways. Both against Cottingham hiring process and his selection. But it's water over the dam. I say give Buzz a chance, so far he seems to be doing a good job.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134102112948628618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-88357599733043772032008-05-16T15:18:00.000-05:002008-05-16T15:18:00.000-05:00The recruits were gone as soon as Tom Crean steppe...The recruits were gone as soon as Tom Crean stepped out the door and turned his back on everybody. There was nothing anyone could have done to change their minds. If they would have done a national search the recruits would have signed with someone else at that point and the head coach wouldn't have had an opportunity to keep them. Plus, the coaches we were looking at such as Tony Bennet,the Xavier Head Coach and the UNLV head coach were not interested.<BR/><BR/>Yes Buzz left his team and didn't win but you go to the little school of New Orleans and expect to get a winning record in one season. Have more faith in Marquette and quit being Negative Nancys about this whole situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-19808966665377593582008-05-16T13:29:00.000-05:002008-05-16T13:29:00.000-05:00Unbelievable.The metric for success is winningBuzz...Unbelievable.<BR/><BR/><I>The metric for success is winning</I><BR/><BR/>Buzz never won before when given an opportunity. In fact, he left/quit the team. <BR/><BR/><I>The fact that they moved to fast was motivated by a true sense of urgency: recruits were heading out the door, and uncertainty leads to chaos in the mind of an 18 year old.</I><BR/><BR/>Really? You mean, "continuity"? You don't say. I'm assuming you meant to say recruits "headed" out the door...as in past tense...as in...MU's two top recruits, who were supposedly the reason Buzz was hired, headed out the door the minute he was hired.<BR/><BR/>Again, this isn't a Buzz slam fest, it's a Cottingham slam fest. He could be proven right and we all hope he is. But the process that went into this decision either speaks to his level of being a complete buffoon, a moron, clueless or lazy (or a little bit of everything). <BR/><BR/>MU athletics, particularly their mens hoops teams, is a multi-million dollar business. If you ran such a business, one that had so much money at stake and so much visability, would you grab the assistant that worked in the office to fill the gig, or would you put together a true, national search. <BR/><BR/>If you said the former, I hope to God you aren't in upper management for any of the public companies I own stock in.Gene Frenklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04219722201995664841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-55643925782022709952008-05-16T11:34:00.000-05:002008-05-16T11:34:00.000-05:00"Recruits were headed out the door." And out the d..."Recruits were headed out the door." <BR/><BR/>And out the door they went! <BR/><BR/>As soon as Taylor received his release, the reasons for promoting our assistant went out the door. You don't hire a guy based on the recruitment of a junior college player and a project big man. Ever.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00302243123748852837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-30325531222138030732008-05-16T11:28:00.000-05:002008-05-16T11:28:00.000-05:00Warrior:Why in the world would Cottingham have to ...Warrior:<BR/><BR/>Why in the world would Cottingham have to explain his process to you or any other fan, season ticket holder (such as myself) or not? The metric for success is winning, as Buzz has stated, and an addendum is winning with academics as well. He owed an explanation of the process to Fr Wild and the athletic board. <BR/><BR/>The fact that they moved to fast was motivated by a true sense of urgency: recruits were heading out the door, and uncertainty leads to chaos in the mind of an 18 year old.<BR/><BR/>Give the “explain the process” a rest and lets move on. Buzz is locked and loaded, and if he can recruit a point guard and post player, we are good to go.The Chuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13816719156714435839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-11891373678486582982008-05-16T11:16:00.000-05:002008-05-16T11:16:00.000-05:00When discussing a single basketball team, with one...When discussing a single basketball team, with one head coach and 12 players, just exactly ISN'T a dead horse? <BR/><BR/>This is a blog about Marquette basketball. If you don't like repetition, don't read it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00302243123748852837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-55886846078448943082008-05-16T10:59:00.000-05:002008-05-16T10:59:00.000-05:00"Again with this nonsense! When will you give it u..."Again with this nonsense! When will you give it up? We get it. Stop beating this dead horse"<BR/><BR/>As soon as Cottingham stops defending and explaining the process -- we'll stop picking it apart.TBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897641917011759574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-89431100074339551232008-05-16T10:56:00.000-05:002008-05-16T10:56:00.000-05:00Again with this nonsense! When will you give it up...Again with this nonsense! When will you give it up? We get it. Stop beating this dead horse. Let it go or get some serious therapy for yourself. If I give you $100 will you just go away at least until the season starts so I don't have to put up with this whining all summer??Squido50https://www.blogger.com/profile/13687493987339972072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-54307992289386742562008-05-16T10:44:00.000-05:002008-05-16T10:44:00.000-05:00If this has "no chance of working", why are you st...If this has "no chance of working", why are you still on this blog? You might as well wait until he leaves or is fired and then return. I get it. You don't like the hire. Crying to us is not changing it.<BR/><BR/>That aside, Buzz has done everything right so far. He hasn't had to coach a single game yet, but give him a chance. He might surprise you. Love the one you're with.Oliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103691634133960271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-74164984396062822252008-05-16T10:35:00.000-05:002008-05-16T10:35:00.000-05:00Hey Championships Matter --Williams...a complete u...Hey Championships Matter --<BR/>Williams...a complete unproven, unknown...is STILL THE HIGHEST PAID EMPLOYEE.<BR/><BR/>If I were a professor, I'd be a helluva lot more pissed off about him getting $1 million plus than MU paying Tony Bennett (a former NBA player with a blue blood pedigree) or Bruce Weber $2 million. <BR/><BR/>What we got was a claimer when we needed a thoroughbred!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00302243123748852837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-24084856889025746822008-05-16T10:32:00.000-05:002008-05-16T10:32:00.000-05:00Bravo, NY Warrior! It sounds as if, like me, you f...Bravo, NY Warrior! It sounds as if, like me, you feel this hire gets more inexplicable every day. Your point about Buzz taking more time to hire assistant coaches speaks volumes about the complete lack of thoroughness in the process.<BR/><BR/>Cottingham and the entire search committee should be ashamed of themselves. What they've done is put a coach on the hot seat from day 1. And I'm not going to feel guilty about questioning his every move. <BR/><BR/>You would think that we would have the confidence as a program to go after somebody with a track record. At the very least, get somebody with some level of credibility. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, what we (and our veteran team) were given was a journeyman coach, with a questionable past and, frankly, zero credibility.<BR/><BR/>The last thing we need is a coach who has to spend two years proving he's up to the task. <BR/><BR/>This has no chance of working. None. <BR/><BR/>Say hello to your Seton Hall Pirates!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00302243123748852837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-8134488038214713772008-05-16T10:27:00.000-05:002008-05-16T10:27:00.000-05:00Two observations stand out here. First, as much as...Two observations stand out here. First, as much as Cottingham may have botched the search process, the decision has been made and there is no turning back. Apparently, the university is not prepared to push Cottingham out the window at O'Hara Hall (not that such an act would do much good), so at some point we have to just hope for the best.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, we do not know everything that went on behind the scenes. Clearly, some coaches would have been excellent hires (i.e., Tony Bennett), but we do not know what was said to Cottingham nor what it would have taken financially to move one of these Top Tier Coaches. <BR/><BR/>Even in the good old days, there was a liberal bent to Marquette as an institution that questioned whether the basketball coach should be the highest paid employee of an organization dedicated to higher education. It's a question of values rather than "cheapness" and I wonder seriously whether Father Wild et al were balancing the need for a very high quality bsaketball team against the institutional outcry likely to occur if Marquette paid a Tony Bennett, for example, what it would cost to bring him. An academic riot would not be out of the question -- along with the issue of how many professors would Marquette NOT be able to hire.<BR/><BR/>For whatever reason, Buzz is our man. Here's hoping he's holding the National Championship trophey in the years ahead.Championships Matterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17554899243261404007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10389503.post-48564152903899892902008-05-16T10:21:00.000-05:002008-05-16T10:21:00.000-05:00A little cheese with you whine? Get over it alread...A little cheese with you whine? Get over it already.theKAYmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16431095339823706600noreply@blogger.com