UPDATE; Ellenson was picked 18th by the Detroit Pistons. DraftExpress had picked him 18th yesterday afternoon. DraftExpress also predicted the Milwaukee Bucks would take Thon Maker at 10.
The NBA will conduct its annual draft tomorrow as 60 players from around the world will be selected for an opportunity to play in the NBA. Marquette's Henry Ellenson is a sure fire first round pick, but whether he is a sure fire lottery pick now has some experts uncertain. Last month we interviewed Jonathan Givony, founder of DraftExpress, for his predictions. Since that meeting, DraftExpress has had Ellenson move up a bit, but recently slipping all the way to number 18. They caution that the prediction ultimately could change based on a number of unknown variables, a trade, a team misses out on a "must have" player, a last minute piece of information that causes a player's stock to drop as we saw in the NFL draft this year. Ellenson could go as high as 9 per the site.
Other publications have Ellenson also in the 7 to 21 range. Several believe he will land locally with the Milwaukee Bucks and continue his presence in Cream City. Regardless of where he is drafted, tomorrow night will be one of the most important days in his life and mark another draft choice from the Marquette basketball program.
Henry Ellenson NBA Draft Mock predictions
Sports Cheat Sheet pick 7 - Denver Nuggets
Forbes pick 8 - Sacramento Kings
CBS pick 9 - Toronto Raptors
WalterFootball pick 9 - Toronto Raptors
Dick Vitale pick 9 - Toronto Raptors
NBA.com pick 10 - Milwaukee Bucks
Fox Sports pick 10 - Milwaukee Bucks
Draftsite pick 11 - Orlando Magic
Bleacher Report pick 12 - Utah Jazz
MyNBADraft pick 12 - Utah Jazz
Chad Ford pick 13 - Phoenix Suns
SB Nation pick 13 - Phoenix Suns
NBADraft.net pick 16 - Boston Celtics
Hoops Hype pick 16 - Boston Celtics
Draft Express pick 18 - Detroit Pistons
Washington Post pick 21 - Atlanta Hawks
Wednesday, June 22, 2016
The night before the NBA Draft - where does Ellenson go?
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Tuesday, May 24, 2016
Podcast is in off season form
Well, it's the off season which means we are more unprepared and disorganized then ever but we have a good amount of topics to cover, so hopefully that makes up for it. We talk about non-basketball related Marquette topics before we remember we are a basketball podcast and then jump into the latest news first. We discuss Khalif Young and LG Gill deciding not to don the blue and gold next season. We debate whether it's a big deal, does it matter, is it a sign of weakness, and why people seem so anxious about some mid-tier recruits. We then talk about everybody's least favorite topic: was Wally cut and why. Basically it boils down to Phil is cold hearted and Joe has some sympathy but basically we should all move on. Since we do have a scholarship open, its worth talking about what the team should do with it. Then we transition to some schedule news that's been coming out in dribs and drabs and what that means for the non-conference season. Lastly we spend time talking about "The Tournament" which is something that Marquette basketball alum led by Dan Fitzgerald are trying to qualify for so they can go win $2 million. The potential team looks pretty good with a lot of fan favorites signed up. Hopefully it'll show up on tv somewhere so we can spend time analyzing it to no end. Link to vote for MU in The Tournament: https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-alumni-marquette-alumni?type=fan&f=570594e91a926927767547 Download this episode (right click and save)
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Saturday, May 07, 2016
Henry Ellenson's draft stock - An interview with DraftExpress founder Jonathan Givony
I was fortunate to spend a few minutes yesterday with Jonathan Givony, the founder of DraftExpress to discuss Henry Ellenson and the 2016 NBA draft. Givony has been kind enough over the last four or five years to give his time to us as he has weighed in on MU draft hopefuls like Vander Blue, Jimmy Butler, Dominic James, Steve Novak and Wes Matthews.
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Monday, April 04, 2016
Seasons over and changes are coming....now what?
We put a couple of weeks between us and the end of the Marquette season, and now we're ready to talk about it. Be prepared, this is a far ranging and deep conversation on all things Marquette basketball (not to mention an hour long). First welcome Markus Howard to the Marquette family! We start with a brief recap of the end of the season and what we took away from the season overall. We then spend some time commiserating over the lack of a post season and the impact on the future that might have. The much maligned schedule is discussed and how it ultimately impacted Marquette's season and post season opportunities. This conversation leads to a very deep dive into the possibility of a Big East expansion that surfaced over the last couple of weeks. After getting the general topics out of the way we got to the main focus right now: Henry Ellenson leaving (we assumed but since confirmed), what the team needs, and Markus Howard. We also spent a little time talking about the future and where the team goes next year. Overall, drawing one season to a close and getting everything tucked away in the podcast so we can settle in to the summer hibernation that is Marquette basketball. Download this episode (right click and save)
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Thursday, March 31, 2016
JJJ Surges; Remembering Beating Nasty Big East Turned ACC Team; New Big East to New Heights Without Stars
Reflections on Marquette's past March battles with the former nasty Big East opponent still alive this year and the fact that the current Big East team representing one of the top three conferences - but a conference with no stars.
JuJuan Johnson was one of the biggest breakthroughs, surging to join Henry Ellenson and Luke Fischer among the top 30 Big East players in the Value Add rankings listed below.
Daniel Ochefu overcame injury to make Villanova the only team in the country with four top 100 players - and that quartet is in the Final Four. The Big East, Big 12 and ACC are the top three conferences based on www.kenpom.com, and are the only three with teams in the Final Four as well as the only three with a winning record in the NCAA tournament, so how can the other two conferences have 10 players rated higher in Value Add than any Big East player?
Yes, Syracuse roughed MU up in the last NCAA match-up, but that memory is eclipsed by DJO and Crowder hitting the consecutive three-pointers in Cleveland to send them home.
This year while the Big East had two stars is you go by likely NBA potential. But our own Henry Ellenson was too inconsistent as most freshman are to be a superstar this year (275th final ranking of 4000+ players).
Which begs the question, "What about Kris Dunn?"
Kris is my favorite non-Marquette player - a great kid when I interviewed him at the Big East tournament last year where he talked about his trust in God, and he will be a great NBA player. He was my preseason National Player of the Year, and I am thrilled the AP selected him as a 2nd Team All-American. However, he dropped to 74th in Value Add and I dropped him to 5th team All-American.
When you really crunch the numbers, Dunn just did not live up to his projected value for one reason - he couldn't stay on the court. Obviously missing some games with the flu is tough. But Dunn just couldn't resist reaching fouls that really hurt Providence by forcing him to sit.
The team barely survived Illinois, USC and Arizona despite Dunn missing more than 14 minutes a game due to foul trouble. He has at least four fouls and averaged missing 10 minutes in two losses to Seton Hall and Michigan State, and if he was on the court to keep them in those games and pull one out then Providence may have improved from an 8-seed and avoided UNC in the second round.
Once they played UNC, he was once again brilliant while on the court - 29 points in 26 minutes - but if Providence could have pulled ahead in the first half while Dunn was sitting on the bench with fouls they might have had a chance. So on the court, no one is better - but resisting those cheap fouls might have given the Big East an additional Sweet 16 team in what is nonetheless a great year.
| Season Rank | Player | Team | Class | Total Pts/Gm Value | NBA% |
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| 37 | Bentil, Ben 0 | Providence | 2 So | 7.69 | 80% |
| 74 | Dunn, Kris 3 | Providence | 3 Jr | 6.78 | 94% |
| 81 | Smith-Rivera, D'Vauntes 4 | Georgetown | 4 Sr | 6.71 | 17% |
| 87 | Rodriguez, Desi 20 | Seton Hall | 2 So | 6.61 | |
| 99 | Arcidiacono, Ryan 15 | Villanova | 4 Sr | 6.49 | 11% |
| 102 | Hart, Josh 3 | Villanova | 3 Jr | 6.47 | 36% |
| 110 | Jenkins, Kris 2 | Villanova | 3 Jr | 6.32 | |
| 114 | Whitehead, Isaiah 15 | Seton Hall | 2 So | 6.26 | 32% |
| 115 | Bluiett, Trevon 5 | Xavier | 2 So | 6.26 | 36% |
| 171 | Ochefu, Daniel 23 | Villanova | 4 Sr | 5.72 | 20% |
| 200 | Groselle, Geoffrey 41 | Creighton | 4 Sr | 5.54 | |
| 225 | Farr, James 2 | Xavier | 4 Sr | 5.27 | |
| 233 | Jones, Roosevelt 21 | Butler | 4 Sr | 5.21 | |
| 265 | Dunham, Kellen 24 | Butler | 4 Sr | 4.98 | 25% |
| 272 | Carrington, Khadeen 0 | Seton Hall | 2 So | 4.93 | |
| 275 | Ellenson, Henry 13 | Marquette | 1 Fr | 4.91 | 91% |
| 291 | Delgado, Angel 31 | Seton Hall | 2 So | 4.81 | 26% |
| 296 | Henry, Myke 4 | DePaul | 4 Sr | 4.79 | |
| 298 | Martin, Kelan 30 | Butler | 2 So | 4.78 | 16% |
| 331 | Davis, Myles 15 | Xavier | 3 Jr | 4.59 | |
| 360 | Fischer, Luke 40 | Marquette | 3 Jr | 4.45 | 35% |
| 370 | Chrabascz, Andrew 45 | Butler | 3 Jr | 4.42 | |
| 374 | Macura, JP 55 | Xavier | 2 So | 4.42 | |
| 400 | Peak, LJ 0 | Georgetown | 2 So | 4.27 | 24% |
| 430 | Wideman, Tyler 4 | Butler | 2 So | 4.17 | |
| 468 | Watson, Maurice 10 | Creighton | 3 Jr | 3.96 | 16% |
| 470 | Huff, Cole 13 | Creighton | 3 Jr | 3.95 | |
| 515 | Zierden, Isaiah 21 | Creighton | 3 Jr | 3.82 | |
| 523 | Bridges, Mikal 25 | Villanova | 1 Fr | 3.79 | 18% |
| 524 | Johnson, JaJuan 23 | Marquette | 3 Jr | 3.79 | 21% |
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Saturday, March 26, 2016
Nova Hopes to Add to Big East Breakthrough Tournament
Butler and Xavier could have made it an incredible tournament for the Big East, but this is still a strong one for the conference. As I just posted on Breitbart, the Big East is one of only three conferences with a winning record even if Nova loses tonight. When you look at the disappointments of the first two tournaments of the new Big East, this may be the breakthrough year.
If we have a few upsets, there could even be a reunion of the old Big East in the Final Four with Nova, Notre Dame and Syracuse winning. Pomeroy gives Nova a slightly better than 50-50 chance, but only a 2% chance of all three of those winning.
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Sunday, March 20, 2016
Former MU asst coach, Trey Schwab, has passed away
I was saddened to learn that Trey Schwab passed away today. He had been fighting for his life while waiting for another lung transplant, but had been in touch via social media with many of us over the years and last few months.
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Friday, March 18, 2016
Dunn Delivers Huge for Marquette and Big East after Failing to Beat MU
Thank you to my Breitbart Sports Preseason Player of the Year, Kris Dunn for delivering for my bracket but most importantly for the Big East. With Seton Hall looking for oxygen in Denver, it looked like the conference might take a double hit before the team that Marquette swept rallied late for a huge win.
I know we are down about Marquette not still playing, but really the long-term success if more dependent on the Big East's performance this year. Here was my recap of the opening day and what credentials helped, or did not seem to help, teams get over the top. (see also "Kris Dunn Leads Breitbart Sports All-American Team")
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Monday, March 14, 2016
Seton Hall Kept Ball from MU Bigs, Now They Get Gonzaga and Utah
Another season without post season play, and in fact I did not have MU anywhere close to an NIT bid. However, the future looks bright assuming the Big East can break through with a couple of big NCAA wins this year. I believe the Midwest offers the best hope, and in the brackets and analysis I published today I see the Seton Hall team that handled MU's big team so well having the potential to do the same with a match-up against both Gonzaga and Utah.
Gonzaga may have the best front line in the country, and Utah has the best center. However, Seton Hall showed how they could pressure the ball to keep MU from getting the ball into our twin towers. Two wins by Seton Hall would finally give the Big East a nice story line at tournament time. Butler also might be the team that could frustrate UVa for a huge upset.
Certainly we can watch Villanova and the rest, but here is the Midwest:
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Monday, March 07, 2016
Ellenson 2nd Team All-BE, Fischer 3rd Team, JJJ Surging
Henry Ellenson, Luke Fischer and JaJuan Johnson combined to hit 49 of 63 two-point shots the last three game of the season (78%). The performances were enough to propel Ellenson to 2nd Team All-Big East in the just released list here, with Fischer just missing the list. Fischer's 15 of 17 during that span left him ranked as the 117th most valuable player in basketball at Value Add, while JJJ is one of the most improved players in the country moving up to 433rd in the past month of more than 4000 players.
The Breitbart All-American list proved prophetic in 2013, 2014 and 2015, and is being released this morning for the 2016 season. Like the All-Conference lists, it is based on a combination of the Value Add calculation of the point value each player has to his team and his NBA potential, as well as subjective awards for Conference and National Players of the Week and the running CBS Sports rankings. The 32 All-Conference teams are released at the same time here and the top three teams are listed below:
| Player | 1st Team All-Big East | Ht | Class | VA | NBA% | Subj |
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| Dunn, Kris | Providence | 6' 4" | Jr | 5.93 | 94% | 2.96 |
| Whitehead, Isaiah | Seton Hall | 6' 4" | So | 5.71 | 32% | 1.85 |
| Bluiett, Trevon | Xavier | 6' 6" | So | 5.03 | 36% | 2.59 |
| Bentil, Ben | Providence | 6' 9" | So | 7.30 | 8% | 3.63 |
| Hart, Josh | Villanova | 6' 5" | Jr | 6.37 | 36% | |
Player | 2nd Team All-Big East | Ht | Class | VA | NBA% | Subj |
| Watson, Maurice | Creighton | 5' 10" | Jr | 3.75 | 16% | |
| Arcidiacono, Ryan | Villanova | 6' 3" | Sr | 5.03 | 11% | |
| Jones, Roosevelt | Butler | 6' 4" | Sr | 5.14 | ||
| Ochefu, Daniel | Villanova | 6' 11" | Sr | 5.15 | 20% | |
| Ellenson, Henry | Marquette | 6' 11" | Fr | 4.56 | 91% | 3.59 |
Player | 3rd Team All-Big East | Ht | Class | VA | NBA% | Subj |
| Smith-Rivera, D'Vauntes | Georgetown | 6' 3" | Sr | 5.93 | 17% | |
| Jenkins, Kris | Villanova | 6' 6" | Jr | 4.97 | ||
| Rodriguez, Desi | Seton Hall | 6' 6" | So | 5.50 | ||
| Fischer, Luke | Marquette | 6' 11" | Jr | 5.58 | 35% | |
| Martin, Kelan | Butler | 6' 6" | So | 4.29 | 16% |
If JJJ gets more minutes and Fischer stays out of foul trouble to give Ellenson support, MU could be a tough out in the Big East tournament. With JJJ and Fischer on the bench for large periods wins will be tough. Traci Carter is now in the top 1% of all players in assist rate at www.kenpom.com, and Carter and JJJ are one of only 11 duos in college basketball to combine to steal the ball more than 7% of opponents' trips when they are on the floor, while Haanif Cheatham and Duane Wilson need to hit some three-pointers to open driving lanes.
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The regular season is over, now what?
Marquette's 99th regular season campaign has drawn to a close and we are left with the question now what. We discuss the deflating Butler game, officiating, Henry's health and why that was such difficult loss from a post season standpoint. We also discuss the Georgetown result, the excitement of which feels long ago, but we do talk a little Traci Carter and how significant his improvement has been. We then talk post season, first the Big East tournament hopes and then what the NIT prospects are when the likely happens and Marquette doesn't win the whole Big East tournament. Finally, we wrap up with another pitch for the great #mubb tshirt that is being sold for a great cause, link is here: https://www.booster.com/mubb-support-for-als-run Download this episode (right click and save)
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Sunday, March 06, 2016
Critics Get a Clue: Buzz and Crean 2 of Top Coaches in Country
Don't look now, but the haters of the last two Marquette coaches are having a bad year.
As I keep up with my running total of the bid chances for all 351 teams, I suddenly realized Virginia Tech had a bye in the ACC tournament and was up to 67th at www.kenpom.com. What? Weren't we all in shock when Alabama State of the SWAC started the season by going into Va Tech to stun Buzz and the Hokies?
Suddenly Virginia Tech has won five straight games to close out the ACC season and earn the buy as the 6th seed. No one expects them to win, but their most likely path would be to beat Florida State and Miami - both of which they beat by double digits during the current five game winning streak - to play a UVa team they beat once this year in the ACC semifinal.
The arrows directed at Buzz despite an unheard of three straight Sweet 16s at Marquette are unwarranted - that almost never happens and we will very likely never see it again despite my hopes for a great future at MU.
Then there is Tom Crean, who has clinched a Big Ten title. There was some glee in some MU circles on the "Tom Crean is on the hotseat" reports after the blow out loss at Duke early this season but guess what - the coach of Indiana is always on the hot seat. You cannot question the ability of a coach that is playing the final game of the season having already won the Big Ten regular season title.
We have a great coach and kudos to Marquette for the wonderful hiring of Steve Wojciechowski and making MU a part of the incredible effort to get the new Big East the Fox Sports deal that has us on TV almost every game and playing in Madison Square Garden.
But as soon as a new regime comes in - whether it is a coach or a CEO of a company - everyone starts telling a new story of how terrible the past regime really was and the gross incompetence that the team or company somehow survived.
Get a clue.
No Tom Crean, no Dwyane Wade. No Wade, and no Final Four run and in turn invitation to the Big East. We needed a sales prep to make Marquette basketball relevant again and he did.
No Buzz Williams and MU gets one final year of the Three Amigos and then the program goes second tier. Call me the next time MU makes three straight Sweet 16s. That just doesn't happen.
Wojo will be great too - but we were very lucky to have the last two.
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Saturday, March 05, 2016
Big East Fans Rooting for Butler over Marquette at Tip-Off
In a piece this morning for Breitbart I graded the bid chances of all 351 teams with Seton Hall, Providence and Butler as teams that likely just needed to avoid an upset to a lower team today to wrap up a bid.
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Monday, February 29, 2016
Duke North? Ellenson Could Put MU Behind only Duke
A couple of notes on my piece in Breitbart Sports today. First, it is amazing how efficient Duke players are year in and year out at www.valueaddbasketball.com, and I saw some of the fundamentals in non-conference play and more recently that I believe play out at a higher level as freshman turn to sophomores. So if Wojo is building "Duke North" I will take it along with all the haters who could come with it.
Second, while Duke dominates the historic database going back to 2003 including six top 5 players, note in the verbage below that Marquette is one of only four other teams with three such players. We have been spoiled by Dwyane Wade, Jimmy Butler and Jae Crowder - and it is quite possible that if Henry Ellenson did decide to stay for one more year he could be the fourth top five player for MU. His shot from outside the top 1000 in the early season to 270th today bodes well for the typically huge sophomore jump great players have.
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Sunday, February 28, 2016
Good effort, but Villanova is just too good
Welcome to a live edition of Scrambled Eggs Podcast! With Joe McCann in town, we decided to record a live podcast, which really just means less work for us but still fun. We talk the week that was for Marquette basketball, a hard fought win over Creighton and a tough loss to a really good Villanova team. We talk about the atmosphere for the Villanova game and what we thought of the game. After some time talking about the tough loss, we talk about closing out the season strong. Marquette has two regular season games left to try and position themselves as positively as possible for the Big East tournament. There are multiple scenarios but Marquette can finish anywhere from 8th to 5th in the final standings. So we talk about what the various scenarios result in. We also talk about honoring Henry at the Georgetown game, we don't know it's his last game at home in a Marquette uniform but we aren't holding our breath. Lastly, we talk about a fun fundraiser that the Marquette social media folks put together on a whim. A t-shirt was created with social media in mind and we decided to use it to fundraise for Al's Run. Here is the link to buy a t-shirt, with all proceeds going to Children's Hospital: https://www.booster.com/mubb-support-for-als-run?ref=copy-link_misc_mobile-campaign-page-share&utm_campaign=mobile-campaign-page-share&utm_content=mubb-support-for-als-run&utm_medium=misc&utm_source=copy-link Get a t-shirt and enjoy the last week of regular season basketball! Download this episode (right click and save)
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Wednesday, February 24, 2016
Yes, MU Can Beat a No. 1 Saturday and Make Tournament
Just before Christmas I calculated the Sagarin numbers gave MU a 3.2% chance of getting the 23 wins they needed to make the NCAA tournament. I was pretty brutal on us having no chance at Villanova despite the win at Providence.
Now MU has a chance to not only beat a No. 1 ranked team for the only time except for Wade vs. Kentucky, but to then win three more games and sneak in with a bid.
Going back to Sagarin, MU's result last night was what we would expect out of the No. 7 team in the country. To determine a Sagarin rating just for one game you take the venue (+3 for MU on the road tonight), add the opponent's Sagarin rating (83 for Creighton to get to 86), then add or subtract the victory or loss margin (+5 for the 66-61 win for Creighton) and Marquette's total 91 Sagarin Rating would make MU the seventh best team in the country.
Here is the trick - Villanova is only one better at 92, so if MU played as well as they did last night on Saturday with the three-point home court advantage and Villanova plays an average game for them- MU wins by two points.
The first rub here is the MU has to repeat it's best performance of the year, and the only other time they were close was their 89 Sagarin rating for the win at Wisconsin. The 88 for DePaul looks close, but at www.valueaddbasketball.com Billy Garrett is worth four points a game, so that is really about an "84" for the win at DePaul.
The second rub is that MU is the rare team that so far has played better away from home than at home. MU averages an 82.1 away from the Bradley Center which would make MU the 50th best team in the country. In games at the Bradley Center (throwing out the cupcakes ranked lower than St. John's) MU's averaging Sagarin Ranking is 72.4, which would make them only the 148th best team in the country. Can MU repeat tonight and do it at home. Here are the Sagarin scores from best to worst both at home and on the road. In the home losses to Iowa and Seton Hall, MU played like the 319th best team in the country.
| Elsewhere | Res | Ven | Opp | Score | Allow | Rank (82.1, 50th) |
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| Creighton | W | 3 | 83 | 66 | 61 | 91 |
| Wisconsin | W | 3 | 84 | 57 | 55 | 89 |
| DePaul | W | 3 | 72 | 73 | 60 | 88 |
| Providence | W | 3 | 82 | 65 | 64 | 86 |
| Arizona St. | W | 0 | 80 | 78 | 73 | 85 |
| Xavier | L | 3 | 89 | 82 | 90 | 84 |
| LSU | W | 0 | 79 | 81 | 80 | 80 |
| Villanova | L | 3 | 92 | 68 | 83 | 80 |
| St. John's | W | 3 | 69 | 78 | 73 | 77 |
| Georgetown | L | 3 | 80 | 70 | 80 | 73 |
| Seton Hall | L | 3 | 84 | 62 | 79 | 70 |
| Bradley | Res | Ven | Opp | Score | Allow | Rank (72.4, 148th) |
| Butler | W | -3 | 85 | 75 | 69 | 88 |
| Providence | W | -3 | 82 | 96 | 91 | 84 |
| Xavier | L | -3 | 89 | 66 | 74 | 78 |
| Creighton | L | -3 | 83 | 62 | 65 | 77 |
| St. John's | W | -3 | 69 | 81 | 75 | 72 |
| Belmont | L | -3 | 75 | 80 | 83 | 69 |
| IUPUI | W | -3 | 68 | 75 | 71 | 69 |
| DePaul | L | -3 | 72 | 56 | 57 | 68 |
| Seton Hall | L | -3 | 84 | 63 | 83 | 61 |
| Iowa | L | -3 | 89 | 61 | 89 | 58 |
Now we get to the Value Add match-ups. I included the players from each Big East team that have a chance at the NBA and/or improve their team by at least two points. Obviously Villanova's overall Value Add is much better than MU's - only Michigan State with Valentine playing ranks higher.
But once again, Villanova does not have those couple of dominating players that you would normally face in a No. 1 team - the guys who can just dominate you. Josh Hart is their highest ranked player at 60th, and he has about the same chance of making the NBA as Luke Fischer does.
So while Villanova has the four highest Value Add rankings on the court, none are near All-American level and in fact the MU has the best player on the court and Fischer might be the second best.
Yes, there is one huge issue - MU's turnovers and Nova's ability to force turnovers. MU could get obliterated into 20 turnovers, but if Henry can help get the ball up there is are nice mismatches near the hoop.
So yes, Saturday history could be made for a win over a team that is No. 1 and if that is accomplished the possibility of winning vs. Georgetown, at Butler and a win as a 4-seed against Butler or Providence in the Big East tournament is real.
At that point, MU finishes 22-11 with an RPI of 71 even assuming a second round loss to a No. 1 seed Xavier or Villanova. I said at Christmas we needed 23 wins one way or the other, but 22 wins on a resume that includes winning six of the last seven including a win over a No. 1, roughly a 6-6 record against the RPI top 50 (Butler and Providence are borderline, so it could be 8-6 to 3-6) and finishing in the top four of one of the top RPI conferences would make MU a late addition on Selection Sunday.
Winning six in a row is rare in basketball, but with two down and the toughest one of the six Saturday, we have a chance.
| Rank | NBA prosp or Value 2+ | Team | Pos | Value Add | NBA% |
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| 272 | Fischer, Luke 40 | Marquette | C | 4.46 | 35% |
| 308 | Ellenson, Henry 13 | Marquette | PF | 4.25 | 91% |
| 862 | Johnson, JaJuan 23 | Marquette | SF | 2.46 | 21% |
| 932 | Cohen, Sandy 5 | Marquette | SG | 2.3 | |
| 957 | Wilson, Duane 1 | Marquette | PG | 2.25 | |
| 1099 | Cheatham, Haanif 25 | Marquette | SG | 1.95 | 16% |
| 60 | Hart, Josh 3 | Villanova | PF | 6.44 | 36% |
| 154 | Arcidiacono, Ryan 15 | Villanova | PG | 5.32 | 11% |
| 174 | Ochefu, Daniel 23 | Villanova | C | 5.18 | 20% |
| 239 | Jenkins, Kris 2 | Villanova | SG | 4.58 | |
| 460 | Bridges, Mikal 25 | Villanova | PF | 3.66 | 18% |
| 660 | Brunson, Jalen 1 | Villanova | PG | 3.01 | 33% |
| 1011 | Reynolds, Darryl 45 | Villanova | PF | 2.14 | |
| 1423 | Booth, Phil 5 | Villanova | PG | 1.34 | 26% |
| 153 | Jones, Roosevelt 21 | Butler | SG | 5.34 | |
| 271 | Martin, Kelan 30 | Butler | C | 4.47 | 16% |
| 329 | Dunham, Kellen 24 | Butler | SG | 4.15 | 25% |
| 429 | Chrabascz, Andrew 45 | Butler | SG | 3.75 | |
| 497 | Wideman, Tyler 4 | Butler | C | 3.54 | |
| 292 | Groselle, Geoffrey 41 | Creighton | C | 4.35 | |
| 293 | Watson, Maurice 10 | Creighton | PG | 4.34 | 16% |
| 319 | Zierden, Isaiah 21 | Creighton | SG | 4.2 | |
| 788 | Huff, Cole 13 | Creighton | C | 2.62 | |
| 858 | Hanson, Zach 40 | Creighton | C | 2.47 | |
| 984 | Thomas, Khyri 2 | Creighton | PF | 2.18 | |
| 231 | Henry, Myke 4 | DePaul | PF | 4.62 | |
| 383 | Garrett, Billy 5 | DePaul | PG | 3.92 | |
| 813 | Hamilton, Tommy 2 | DePaul | C | 2.57 | 28% |
| 66 | Smith-Rivera, D'Vauntes 4 | Georgetown | PG | 6.3 | 17% |
| 554 | Peak, LJ 0 | Georgetown | SG | 3.33 | 24% |
| 823 | Copeland, Isaac 11 | Georgetown | PF | 2.56 | 35% |
| 947 | Hayes, Bradley 42 | Georgetown | C | 2.27 | |
| 991 | Govan, Jessie 15 | Georgetown | PF | 2.17 | 35% |
| 1216 | Derrickson, Marcus 24 | Georgetown | SF | 1.68 | 18% |
| 9999 | White, Paul 13 | Georgetown | SF | 0 | 29% |
| 42 | Bentil, Ben 0 | Providence | PF | 6.91 | 8% |
| 54 | Dunn, Kris 3 | Providence | PG | 6.52 | 94% |
| 525 | Bullock, Rodney 5 | Providence | C | 3.44 | |
| 137 | Rodriguez, Desi 20 | Seton Hall | SF | 5.49 | |
| 270 | Whitehead, Isaiah 15 | Seton Hall | PG | 4.47 | 32% |
| 304 | Delgado, Angel 31 | Seton Hall | C | 4.28 | 26% |
| 377 | Carrington, Khadeen 0 | Seton Hall | SG | 3.94 | |
| 709 | Sanogo, Ismael 14 | Seton Hall | PF | 2.89 | |
| 1258 | Sima, Yankuba 35 | St. John's | PF | 1.62 | 25% |
| 158 | Bluiett, Trevon 5 | Xavier | SF | 5.29 | 36% |
| 267 | Farr, James 2 | Xavier | C | 4.48 | |
| 335 | Davis, Myles 15 | Xavier | PG | 4.13 | |
| 349 | Macura, JP 55 | Xavier | PG | 4.06 | |
| 535 | Sumner, Edmond 4 | Xavier | PG | 3.38 | 21% |
| 691 | Reynolds, Jalen 1 | Xavier | C | 2.94 | 35% |
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Friday, February 19, 2016
Marquette is still young, and still maddeningly inconsistent
Marquette had a week off so we decided to take advantage and really process the Creighton and Providence game. That's mostly an excuse for our laziness, but we are going to talk a lot about the Creighton and Providence games. One of the first things we talk about is Coach Wojchiekowski's post game presser after Creighton, you can listen here: So after listening to Wojo we're wondering, has he lost this team? How does a team just not run a play at all that a coach draws up? Is this just more youth showing? We then talk, yet again, about youthful mistakes the team is making, but point out that the total mistakes (TOs) are going down, they are just being made at very inopportune times. We then talk about the last 5 games of the season and focus on the next 3 especially. Bottom line, DON'T LOSE TO DEPAUL AGAIN! And we need to win at least one or two more to make the NIT. We wrap up with some talk about recruiting as well as Steve Novak, who has taken one elite skill and turned it into a 10 year, $20 mil career. Enjoy, and don't lose to DePaul! Download this episode (right click and save)
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Tuesday, February 09, 2016
Two tough loses but not all is lost
Another week of #mubb product and another week of two loses with silver linings. In this episode of the podcast we discuss the Seton Hall and Xavier games and what we took away from them. We do spend some time on negativity island especially around turnovers and why they keep happening at such an alarming rate. We then take a ferry to things aren't too bad harbor where we talk about the offensive success of the team and Jajuan Johnson turning into good Jajuan Johnson. We then look ahead to the rest of the conference season but especially the next three games and what it'll take for Marquette to get some wins. Two home games this week including a rare night game against an unexpectedly decent Creighton, gotta come away with at least one win. Do they have it in them? Download this episode (right click and save)
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Friday, February 05, 2016
Fischer, JJJ or Cheatham Could Join Ellenson in NBA to keep MU in Top 15 NBA Factories
Value Add updated the chance of players making the NBA last night, and the odds are that at least one of three players - Luke Fischer (35%), JuJuan Johnson (21%) and/or Haanif Cheatham (16%) will join Henry Ellenson in the NBA one day. Since 2003, MU has averaged having 2.5 future NBA players on each roster - the 15th best total in the country.
In the days ahead we will be updating the historic database to indicate the last year each player appeared in the NBA. One interesting note in building this database is that steals were not as big a predictor as in the past, while rebounding, blocked shots, two-point shots and the ability to get to the line all separate future NBA players from the very good college players that do NOT make the NBA:
| Average Player Performance 2003-2016 | OR% | DR% | Blk% | Stl% | FTRate | 2-pt % |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1500 top players who did not make NBA | 3.46 | 11.10 | 0.86 | 2.23 | 36.35 | 47% |
| Possible players | 6.97 | 14.83 | 3.17 | 1.82 | 42.37 | 51% |
| Future NBA average | 7.08 | 14.74 | 3.08 | 2.17 | 42.09 | 51% |
| NBA Center | 11.62 | 19.81 | 6.86 | 1.61 | 51.65 | 55% |
| NBA PF | 9.60 | 17.95 | 3.99 | 1.83 | 44.11 | 53% |
| NBA PG | 2.80 | 9.57 | 0.76 | 2.76 | 39.42 | 48% |
| NBA SF | 7.01 | 14.80 | 2.66 | 2.09 | 38.90 | 51% |
| NBA SG | 4.68 | 11.91 | 1.36 | 2.54 | 36.91 | 49% |
The 1500 seasons in which a player was on the court a bit more than 80% of the time but did NOT ultimately make the NBA, resulted in the average percentages on the top line.
MU is credited for 1.63 future NBA players on the current roster (adding the percent chance each player makes it), while last year's team is credited for 0.56 with Fischer and Johnson on that team as well. If Matt Carlino were to make the jump it would add a player to 2015.
As we go back earlier, we see that MU's 2011 team had FIVE future NBA players, though only Jae Crowder and Jimmy Butler played more than a few games. The first year in the database, the 2003 Final Four team, featured only three future NBA players, but all three had extended careers.
| College Yr | NBA Last Year or % | |
|---|---|---|
| Ellenson, Henry 13 | 2016 | 91% |
| Fischer, Luke 40 | 2016 | 35% |
| Johnson, JaJuan 23 | 2016 | 21% |
| Cheatham, Haanif 25 | 2016 | 16% |
| Total estimated 2016 team | 1.63 | |
| Fischer, Luke 40 | 2015 | 35% |
| Johnson, JaJuan 23 | 2015 | 21% |
| Total estimated 2015 team | 0.56 | |
| Crowder, Jae 32 | 2012 | 2016 |
| Butler, Jimmy 33 | 2011 | 2016 |
| Crowder, Jae 32 | 2011 | 2016 |
| Butler, Jimmy 33 | 2010 | 2016 |
| Butler, Jimmy 33 | 2009 | 2016 |
| Matthews, Wesley 23 | 2009 | 2016 |
| Matthews, Wesley 23 | 2008 | 2016 |
| Matthews, Wesley 23 | 2007 | 2016 |
| Novak, Steve | 2006 | 2016 |
| Matthews, Wesley | 2006 | 2016 |
| Novak, Steve | 2005 | 2016 |
| Novak, Steve | 2004 | 2016 |
| Wade, Dwyane | 2003 | 2016 |
| Novak, Steve | 2003 | 2016 |
| Blue, Vander 13 | 2013 | 2015 |
| Blue, Vander 2 | 2012 | 2015 |
| Blue, Vander 2 | 2011 | 2015 |
| Buycks, Dwight 23 | 2011 | 2015 |
| Buycks, Dwight 23 | 2010 | 2015 |
| McNeal, Jerel 22 | 2009 | 2015 |
| McNeal, Jerel 22 | 2008 | 2015 |
| McNeal, Jerel 22 | 2007 | 2015 |
| McNeal, Jerel | 2006 | 2015 |
| Johnson-Odom, Darius 1 | 2012 | 2014 |
| Johnson-Odom, Darius 1 | 2011 | 2014 |
| Johnson-Odom, Darius 1 | 2010 | 2014 |
| Hayward, Lazar 32 | 2010 | 2013 |
| Hayward, Lazar 32 | 2009 | 2013 |
| Hayward, Lazar 32 | 2008 | 2013 |
| Hayward, Lazar 32 | 2007 | 2013 |
| Diener, Travis | 2005 | 2010 |
| Diener, Travis | 2004 | 2010 |
| Diener, Travis | 2003 | 2010 |
| Estimated 2.5 future NBA/season |
Over those seasons MU had 33 players on the roster who made the NBA - understanding that a four-year player like Lazar Hayward counts as four. The current players add a total of 2.2 anticipated spots based on adding the percentages from last year.
While some teams have many more one-and-dones, the fact that MU has had so many players stay through their senior year and then make it to the NBA has led to a roster that averages 2.5 future NBA players each season.
The Blue Bloods are higher - led by an incredible average of 5.1 per Duke roster - but the vast majority of schools do not see the number of future NBA players on the court as we see at the Bradley Center.
| Rnk | School since 2003 | Future NBA/Year | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Duke | 5.1 | 71.9 |
| 2 | Kansas | 4.9 | 68.1 |
| 3 | North Carolina | 4.7 | 66.4 |
| 4 | Kentucky | 4.7 | 66.3 |
| 5 | UCLA | 3.5 | 49.0 |
| 6 | Connecticut | 3.1 | 43.6 |
| 7 | Washington | 3.0 | 41.9 |
| 8 | Syracuse | 3.0 | 41.6 |
| 9 | Arizona | 3.0 | 41.4 |
| 10 | Michigan St. | 2.9 | 40.7 |
| 11 | Louisville | 2.8 | 38.5 |
| 12 | Memphis | 2.7 | 37.4 |
| 13 | Notre Dame | 2.5 | 35.5 |
| 14 | Florida | 2.5 | 35.5 |
| 15 | Marquette | 2.5 | 35.2 |
| 16 | Georgetown | 2.5 | 34.9 |
| 17 | Texas | 2.5 | 34.5 |
| 18 | Michigan | 2.4 | 33.4 |
| 19 | Gonzaga | 2.1 | 29.3 |
| 20 | Wisconsin | 2.0 | 27.4 |
| 21 | Georgia Tech | 1.9 | 26.8 |
| 22 | LSU | 1.8 | 25.4 |
| 23 | Oklahoma St. | 1.8 | 25.3 |
| 24 | Villanova | 1.8 | 24.7 |
| 25 | Florida St. | 1.8 | 24.6 |
| 26 | Maryland | 1.7 | 23.9 |
| 27 | Vanderbilt | 1.6 | 22.7 |
| 28 | Iowa St. | 1.6 | 22.0 |
| 29 | Colorado | 1.6 | 21.8 |
| 30 | Illinois | 1.5 | 21.5 |
| 31 | California | 1.5 | 21.0 |
| 32 | Virginia | 1.5 | 21.0 |
| 33 | Purdue | 1.4 | 20.3 |
| 34 | USC | 1.4 | 19.9 |
| 35 | Georgia | 1.4 | 19.6 |
| 36 | Tennessee | 1.4 | 19.3 |
| 37 | Indiana | 1.4 | 19.2 |
| 38 | North Carolina St. | 1.4 | 19.0 |
| 39 | Pittsburgh | 1.4 | 19.0 |
| 40 | Texas A and M | 1.3 | 18.1 |
| 41 | Arkansas | 1.3 | 17.9 |
| 42 | Missouri | 1.3 | 17.7 |
| 43 | Nevada | 1.2 | 17.0 |
| 44 | New Mexico | 1.2 | 17.0 |
| 45 | Miami FL | 1.2 | 16.9 |
| 46 | Stanford | 1.2 | 16.4 |
| 47 | Oregon | 1.1 | 16.0 |
| 48 | Alabama | 1.1 | 15.7 |
| 49 | Wake Forest | 1.1 | 15.4 |
| 50 | Ohio St. | 1.1 | 15.3 |
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Monday, February 01, 2016
That week feels a whole lot better than the week before.
Well, we can all breathe just a touch easier, as we now know Marquette can put together a quality game against a quality opponent in Big East play. We spend a fair amount of time on the pod this week, discussing what the impact of the Butler win is on the season, and just what it was that allowed Marquette to put on such a good showing. We walk through some of the individual performances and discuss whether they are sustainable through the rest of the season or not. We also give a shout out to the crowd who put in yeoman's work on Saturday. We then transition to "well that's nice but can we win more?" and "OK but we still can't make the tournament, right....right?". Lastly we journey down a Marquette tangent that maybe the internet masses can answer for us. This week is a big week for Marquette's post season hopes, two tough road games that will determine if they've turned the corner or if they are still just talented freshmen. Download this episode (right click and save)
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